Let's talk about Gay Marriage out here.

Is it acceptible being a Christian? or do you say its okay as long as one agrees? give your views and comments.

thank you

mang guite

Homosexuality is sin!!!

We can quote the Old Testament Scriptures like…

Leviticus 18:22 that says, “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman, that is detestable.” or
Leviticus 20:13 that says, “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable…”

And we can quote the New Testament Scriptures like…

I Timothy 1:9-11 says, “We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, (for fornicators and sodomites (male homosexuals) - NKJV) for slave traders, liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which he entrusted to me.” or

I Corinthians 6:9 which reads “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kindness of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexual offenders, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor the greedy or covetous, nor the drunkards, nor slanderers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” or

Jude 1:7 which says, “Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing punishment of eternal fire.”

We have the answer for them-Jesus Christ. We are all born with a sinful nature! Jesus can forgive and transform. Jesus says, “neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more,”

Paul told the Romans that “God will give them over to their depraved mind, to the sinful desires of their hearts, to the shameful lusts, because they are doing what ought not be done. (Romans 1:28).

Our job is to be a light to shine in the darkness for anyone who wants to leave any sinful lifestyle. We are all in need of God’s mercy and grace.

God Bless, Eva

umm...me again but heres some more bible verses to go with wat i said

GENESIS 1:27-28...." So God created man in his own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, " Be fruitful and increase in number;fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.

GENISIS 2:23-24...."The man said, "This is mow bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man. For the reason an man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

I dont see why everyone has such a problem with gay people.. a lot of people are so against gay marraige but if it becomes accpeted. it doesnt mean that they have to marry another guy it just means that if a guy is gay and he wants to marry some other guy than he would be allowed to

There is no compromise in God's living Word. If you're hot you must be hot, if you are cold you must be cold, if you continues to stay lukewarm God will spit you out of his mouth one day. no human being can go against the Will of the Living God. if they do so, they will be thrown into the lake of Fire where there is no end of pain and suffering, crying and nashing of teeth. Sodom & Gommorah, is a very good example in the Bible.

yeah thats true.. but now they are saying that it is heredetary... can we blame them for something they were born with?

sayings are of men so we must not accept this heredetary disease, it must not affect our lives. God want us to marry Man with a woman, woman with man so why should we break his law!!! that is why God made Adam and Eve as the first man and woman!! not the first man and man or the first woman and woman. as we see GOD made MAN and WOMAN. so there must not be accepted.

This is where I differ from most Catholics. I fully agree and acknowledge that homosexuality is a sin against God, but personally, I don't have a problem with it. I'm not gay or bi, but if someone is gay, bi, or a lesbian, I can't change that. I have no problem with homosexuality, even though the Catholic Church is strongly against it.

I couldn't agree more, Emi. That's kinda my stand on it.

I think you have hit the nail on the head (again) ApologetiXFan.
It is that type of desire/need (which is fine in itself) that is sometimes projected onto other situations.

I know the "desire" for a paternal-love from my own experiences, but i chose to direct it healthily & realised it for what it was.

But, whatever the cause- don't forget to love them as any other person.

Hey richie, there is nothing that you are born with knowing. if you grew up with a mute family you wouldn't understand english. there is no one person who came out of womb hollering about the right to choose abortion. EVERYTHING about your person was NOT genetics. ALL THINGS IN YOUR LIFE ARE INFLUENCED BY EVERYTHING!! if you grew up with a gay uncle, you would not believe what homosexuals do is wrong because you were influenced by it growing up. if your parents smoked when you were a child, there is a 80% greater chance that you would be smoker too... NO ONE has EVER been born gay. it happens when they are influenced.

ok i'm going to say this now,
the way you guys skitter around the rape like its a poisonous snake
makes it a 1000 times worse than it already is.

we christian have too much compassion !!! the compassion which God doesn't allow, i mean against God's compassion which is accepting everything as it comes, eg our topic. Gay Marriage...God never compromised with things which is against his Will. So these people will surely go go hell

I don't think Christians who are gay will go to hell. I think they are sinning, and God desires them to stop & that if they do have a true relationship with God they would likely try to stop. Although, there are some churches who believe it is not sin, so they would not see a need to try and stop.

But i think it is much like any other sin. I have lied in the past, i should (i.e. i deserve) to go to hell.
Gay/lesbian have sinned. They deserve to go to hell.
But Christ came & died that we may know God & His love, & be saved so we can spend eternity with Him if we choose.
Conclusion: Gay Christians are like any other Christians. Saved with Jesus, not saved without Jesus.

You make sense also AXF (that's what i'll call you for now, i hope you don't mind).
I've learnt to use very-simple language, because it's what makes sense to my friends & me.

Hmm... I slightly disargree there mattteaxe.
Oftentimes I believe the sin is in the thought.
We can't control our initial thoughts, but we can control what we do with them.
Thus if we have a nasty thought and we do not stop ourselves from continuing to have that thought, then we are sinning.
Though in a way that /is/ an action.
So I suppose we're on the same page.
Just clarifyin ;]

sparky i completely agree with you. I dont think anyting besides the color of my hair, eyes, etc are heredetary. I would hate to think that i could be something against God because of something in my DNA, its stupid, arrogant, and completely ignorant.
Now from that, whats all this about skittering around rape??

being gay is not hereditary. as it says in the bible, god doesnt like it. its not good for people to like it, or guys to like seeing lesbians "going at it" in some words.

Even while the Episcopal denomination was supposed to be working with the Anglican church on issues ranging from same-sex marriage, they've thumbed their noses by looking for loopholes and marrying them anyway. End result is that if same sex marriages are legalized, then ALL churches whom stand on Biblical standards are in jeopardy. This also means that the government can dictate what can and cannot be shared either as a sermon, in Bible studies, or even allowed to stand as meant to be in written text in the Bible. In Germany, in England, there are documented cases where parents whom choose to pull their children from public schools (hometeach) have been slapped with severe fines, been told their children may be taken from them and placed in foster care because they dare to teach them what the Bible reads as viable even for today.

Think this can't happen in America? Homebased classes aren't immune to this either. In the public schools here, kids are being indoctrinated to believe this is true and natural as young as the third grade. Teachers are being strongarmed by the union to stand behind them on all transgender/homosexual issues, including celebrating, with posters and a party. With peer pressure being what it is with students, its no surprize that anyone with an opposing view keeps quiet. After all, its far from 'cool' and an official stamp of being classified as a major dork to suggest there's anything morally wrong with this.

But I think that Christians have to take a lot of blame for this; for years many have either blatently ignored it, refused to get involved in schools, refused to get involved by demanding the media, as a whole stand accountable for their portions of actions. Instead, we all rolled our eyes when kids brought home calendars from the PTA, didn't listen to our children REALLY talk about in school, didn't show up in school offices demanding answers, refused to communicate with school board members, go to the trouble of making the school board members work for the good of our children, OR even volunteer to critique/read books that were being considered as learning materials for classwork (which you can do, contact your local school board office). Instead, we let the schools, the TV, movies dictate.

I started studying Greek because I wanted to take Bible translations back to their basic. Not to depend on others oppinions, or even a higher count of same-translations according to verse. It's too easy to get caught up in that by using empathy as a meter in translating. Trouble is, that isn't always dependable and changes by influence. But God's Word never changes. He doesn't contradict, He always has us in mind, especially when we don't have all the information. Do a computer search on the Bible and science, and there's so many things that DON'T run contrary, in spite of what many people try to push.

Yet where does one go when the world pushes from every direction?

Yet, at the same time, kids are mocked, teased if they try to stand up. If they choose to go public regarding Promise Rings. They're told they can't wear crosses in public schools, if they disagree with choices on birth control excluding abstanance. You can't tell me this wouldn't change if parents really got involved instead of shaking their heads and/or insist they're doing the best of what they can, praying. Using the Bible as an example, prayer is important, but it would sure be a heck of a lot shorter book if the person praying simply left it at that.

Praise God if you have family/friends whom are homosexual or believe that this is ok. You may be the only influence they have. Love them. Don't preach to them. They already know how you feel, right? Trust God in the timing, do your homework and be there for them without compromising your beliefs. THIS more than anything may open the door.

I don't think the Christian can not accept guy marriage. it is ok for me, I am not guy, but I accept it, I admire their courage.
Not everyone has the courage to say love the the one they fall in live with, especially the guy, I respect everyone who live with their true heart.
it is ok if they live happy, the god hope we find a peace place for our heart.
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