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      CommentAuthorzobawm
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2007
     
    Let's talk about Gay Marriage out here.

    Is it acceptible being a Christian? or do you say its okay as long as one agrees? give your views and comments.

    thank you

    mang guite
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    ummm...well i dont hate them...but i cant agree with them bcuz its a sin to be gay or a lesbian. mi mom said that God made man to "go forth and multiply", but if ur gay u cant...so i dont hate them, but i cant agree with them
    • CommentAuthoregs
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2007
     
    Homosexuality is sin!!!

    We can quote the Old Testament Scriptures like…

    Leviticus 18:22 that says, “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman, that is detestable.” or
    Leviticus 20:13 that says, “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable…”

    And we can quote the New Testament Scriptures like…

    I Timothy 1:9-11 says, “We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, (for fornicators and sodomites (male homosexuals) - NKJV) for slave traders, liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which he entrusted to me.” or

    I Corinthians 6:9 which reads “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kindness of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexual offenders, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor the greedy or covetous, nor the drunkards, nor slanderers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” or

    Jude 1:7 which says, “Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing punishment of eternal fire.”

    We have the answer for them-Jesus Christ. We are all born with a sinful nature! Jesus can forgive and transform. Jesus says, “neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more,”

    Paul told the Romans that “God will give them over to their depraved mind, to the sinful desires of their hearts, to the shameful lusts, because they are doing what ought not be done. (Romans 1:28).

    Our job is to be a light to shine in the darkness for anyone who wants to leave any sinful lifestyle. We are all in need of God’s mercy and grace.

    God Bless, Eva
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      CommentAuthorzobawm
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2007
     
    anyone else?? please keep giving your comments, ideas and thoughts.

    Thank you, and God bless you all.
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    umm...me again but heres some more bible verses to go with wat i said

    GENESIS 1:27-28...." So God created man in his own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, " Be fruitful and increase in number;fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.

    GENISIS 2:23-24...."The man said, "This is mow bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man. For the reason an man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
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      CommentAuthorzobawm
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2007
     
    I would like to thank you all for giving your views, comments and what God's will is upon man. The Bible says in..
    Genesis 1:27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

    the bible also says.
    Jude 1:7 which says, “Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing punishment of eternal fire.”

    so after such a great law put infront of us we must not fall into temptation to break the law but follow his will. I would like everyone in this Forum to stand against this. Let's stop watching this hollywood movi "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry". Let us all remember there is no compromise in the eye of God, he let us remember and never forget God is a clean God, without and compromise. Let this be our reminder that our God is a mercyful God but punishes those who disobey him mercilessly. Let you not forget that there is HELL which always opens its mouth for those who disobey God, and HEAVEN always there for his Sons. THERE IS NO COMPROMISE.
    • CommentAuthorRichie
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2007
     
    I dont see why everyone has such a problem with gay people.. a lot of people are so against gay marraige but if it becomes accpeted. it doesnt mean that they have to marry another guy it just means that if a guy is gay and he wants to marry some other guy than he would be allowed to
    • CommentAuthorawayla
    • CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
     
    ya...i mean a lot of girls here r lezbian or bisexual...and everything....i know a lot of ppl who r...:D:D even though im not gay, or bi, POWER TO THEM!!
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      CommentAuthorzobawm
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2007
     
    There is no compromise in God's living Word. If you're hot you must be hot, if you are cold you must be cold, if you continues to stay lukewarm God will spit you out of his mouth one day. no human being can go against the Will of the Living God. if they do so, they will be thrown into the lake of Fire where there is no end of pain and suffering, crying and nashing of teeth. Sodom & Gommorah, is a very good example in the Bible.
    • CommentAuthorTammy1
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2007 edited
     
    Hi guys!
    I think Zobawm is right! The word of God is our guide in life and it speaks of homosexuality as a sin. It doesn't matter what the world says about it or what everyone else thinks, it only matters what God says coz it's His world and He makes the rules. If God says it's wrong then it must be wrong, firstly coz He didn't make man to be like that and secondly coz it goes against His word that says to go into the world and multiply. We don't hate the people but we hate the sin.

    Romans 1vs22-32 says "Claiming to be wise, they became fools; and they exchanged the glory of the imortal God for images resembling a mortal human being or birds or four footed animals or reptiles. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity to the degrading of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dregrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and recieved in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fitt to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind and to things that should not be done. They were filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, covetousness malice." verse 32 says" They know God's decree, that those who practice these things deserve to die-yet they not only do them but even applaud others who practice them" You can start reading from verse 18 if you'd like, it give more understanding and clarity to read the whole thing.
    This is what the word of God says.....God is all powerful, all knowing, all seeing and more. If he says it's wrong then it must be wrong.
    • CommentAuthorRichie
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2007
     
    yeah thats true.. but now they are saying that it is heredetary... can we blame them for something they were born with?
    • CommentAuthorawayla
    • CommentTimeDec 14th 2007
     
    no we cant...
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      CommentAuthorzobawm
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2007
     
    sayings are of men so we must not accept this heredetary disease, it must not affect our lives. God want us to marry Man with a woman, woman with man so why should we break his law!!! that is why God made Adam and Eve as the first man and woman!! not the first man and man or the first woman and woman. as we see GOD made MAN and WOMAN. so there must not be accepted.
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    I believe that homosexuality is wrong. End of story. But also remember that Jesus forgave the man on the cross and the prostitute at the well, so we should accept them into our communities, witness to them, and let Him do the work in them.
    • CommentAuthorphenom2389
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2008
     
    This is where I differ from most Catholics. I fully agree and acknowledge that homosexuality is a sin against God, but personally, I don't have a problem with it. I'm not gay or bi, but if someone is gay, bi, or a lesbian, I can't change that. I have no problem with homosexuality, even though the Catholic Church is strongly against it.
    • CommentAuthorEmi
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2008
     
    I echo what aplologetiXFan said: "remember that Jesus forgave the man on the cross and the prostitute at the well, so we should accept them into our communities, witness to them, and let Him do the work in them."

    I believe homosexuality a sin. But so is telling lies.
    The main difference in my mind is that people tells lies by accident, you don't accidentally engage in a same-sex relationship.

    As for the issue of "hereditary homosexuality"...
    To put it frankly, i don't believe in it fully.
    Because of early childhood experiences one may DEVELOP a "leaning" towards seeking same-sex relationships.
    But i find it hard to believe that without ANY environmental factors influencing, one could be born with homosexual tendency.

    In saying that, it could be possible. I am not a psychologist- i only have a psychologist mother.

    But, even if it were (in some cases) hereditary, one can still abstain from ACTING upon it. And i believe God can also "heal" the tendency.

    But, despite it being a sin, it does not mean we ought to look down on them, or disclude them from coming to church. I believe the opposite.
    Jesus associated with the tax collectors; i can associate with the homosexuals.
    • CommentAuthorphenom2389
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2008
     
    I couldn't agree more, Emi. That's kinda my stand on it.
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    I think Emi's got it right, "Because of early childhood experiences one may DEVELOP a "leaning" towards seeking same-sex relationships."
    I have a friend who is gay. She lost her mother to cancer when she was 7. She watched her mother die, literally. As a result, she suffers from depression and yearns greatly for motherly love. However, I think she mistook her need for motherly love as a need for /romantic/ love, and that is why she is gay. But I don't think this was a concious decision.
    • CommentAuthorEmi
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
     
    I think you have hit the nail on the head (again) ApologetiXFan.
    It is that type of desire/need (which is fine in itself) that is sometimes projected onto other situations.

    I know the "desire" for a paternal-love from my own experiences, but i chose to direct it healthily & realised it for what it was.

    But, whatever the cause- don't forget to love them as any other person.